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Danger crossing Haslemere road from cinema
- Mary W (5th Sep 2022 22:42:07)
Now that it is dark, coming out of the cinema to cross to get to Midhurst Road car park, seemed to be very hazardous, especially when one doesn’t walk very well or quickly.
It was quite scary this evening at 7.30. I know the new Highway Code says that pedestrians are supposed to be allowed to cross, but if a driver makes an error of judgement, I know who is going to come out worst.
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Re: Danger crossing Haslemere road from cinema
- John Jonson (6th Sep 2022 06:42:21)
Have you considered the crossing at the front of Feebz Barbers?
Far less hazardous if pedestrians resist the urge to cut the shortest route.
It would be helpful for all involved if pedestrians intend to cross will give clear indications of doing so and being alert. Talking on the phone , looking inside the handbag or looking at shop windows are not good indication a pedestrian is about to set foot on the road.
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Re: Danger crossing Haslemere road from cinema
- Mary W (6th Sep 2022 08:16:56)
What crossing? The only one I know of is the zebra to the pub.
I was trying to get to the Midhurst Road car park. Should i paint my stick white, so that it is visible? Or is that a step too far…
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Re: Danger crossing Haslemere road from cinema
- Resident (6th Sep 2022 10:05:57)
Mary w there is a crossing outside the hairdresser’s over to the coffee shop but you have to indicate clearly that you intended to cross. The same as across on the corner by the mini roundabout top of midhurst road. Be very careful motorists can be very blind at times.
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Re: Danger crossing Haslemere road from cinema
- M (6th Sep 2022 11:01:58)
To Resident, and others, the crossing outside the barbers, and various others around the Square, is not a dedicated pedestrian crossing. It has a dropped curb and a different road surface, but vehicles do not have to stop and give way to pedestrians who wish to cross.
Obviously, any motorist that does stop to allow someone to cross is being courteous (hence the name "courteous crossing"), but they do not have to. It's no different to trying to cross the road anywhere.
I agree that with the amount of traffic another zebra type crossing would be advantageous, possibly sited on the Haslemere Road opposite the alleyway to the Car Park? but imagine how much more congestion it would cause at peak times...... but would make crossing safer!
Maybe our Parish Council could apply for some of the developer's money sat in accounts somewhere to do it?
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Re: Danger crossing Haslemere road from cinema
- passfield resident (6th Sep 2022 11:07:04)
The courtesy crossings can be dangerous-some drivers ignore them or else one car sometimes stops and then a car coming the other way doesn't.
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Re: Danger crossing Haslemere road from cinema
- er (6th Sep 2022 11:33:32)
M, I believe as OP referenced, the latest law now requires drivers on roads to give way to pedestrians on roads, I believe cyclists must also give way to pedestrians, there is no longer a presumed right of way for cars driving on residential or town streets, but as with most of us I'm so utterly confused by the practicalities or specifics of that, I wonder, can anyone clarify the new laws on this, I for one (as the previous poster said) will not be trusting any motor car to give way to me unless I see that it actually does, the law may be on my side but that won't help me much if I get knocked over by someone who hasn't read it and is merrily speeding through the square without indicating and blaming everyone but themselves for being there:)
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Re: Danger crossing Haslemere road from cinema
- Mary W (6th Sep 2022 11:57:13)
As well as my puzzlement about crossing from the cinema, I am also an experienced driver. I do sympathise with motorists as well as pedestrians.
I wondered about those posts near the kerb, assumed they were for mobility aids, wheelchairs, etc - pity the posts aren’t a bit more eye-catching. I had never appreciated how difficult life was for pedestrians in the centre as I am usually in my car.
I always look out for people crossing, but my confidence has been eroded over time as positions are reversed.
I hadn’t explored that alley from the car park, brilliant suggestion for crossing. Maybe a little easier to manage just one carriageway instead of watching from all directions. Maybe a kind graffiti artist could spray the posts with luminous paint?
I fear there will be an accident there now the cinema is firmly established and the 5.00pm performance will be in the dark and during rush hour.
Perhaps I could get some bright reflective tape or similar for my stick. I will explore further possibilities.
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Re: Danger crossing Haslemere road from cinema
- Tommy (6th Sep 2022 12:00:30)
Surely the safe way would be walk round to the Zebra Crossing, then past the newsagents and down to the pelican crossing?
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Re: Danger crossing Haslemere road from cinema
- paul (6th Sep 2022 15:18:49)
Hi,
Is crossing a road as a pedestrian such a difficult manoeuvre?
I like the '70s advice "The Green Cross Code". Stop, Look, Listen, and Think.
Still alive today...
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Re: Danger crossing Haslemere road from cinema
- Mary W (6th Sep 2022 16:51:23)
Tommy, I quite agree, and were I fully able bodied I am sure I would follow that suggestion. For me, that would mean walking probably 4 times as far and physically very testing.
Paul, quite right, many of the schoolchildren darting across the road 30 yards short of the lights obviously consider they too are perfectly capable of crossing unaided. Which is why there are so many more accidents in the dusk period following the end of BST.
er, sadly not many drivers have read a Highway Code since they passed their test, let alone paid much attention to the new provisos requiring drivers to give way to pedestrians in the process of crossing a road.
Passfield resident, you raise a very valid point about the safety of courtesy crossings where they is no central reservation to shelter from a driver speeding from the constraints of a roundabout in the other direction - it is hard for a pedestrian to take account of two carriageways that have cars coming at different speeds - even a 20 mph impact is pretty uncomfortable for someone without a sturdy metal shell around them.
M - your idea for a crossing to the alleyway into the carpark is a brilliant idea and so sensible. You must be a woman 😀. Stand for the Council and I will vote for you!
The new rule is, and I quote:
‘The key new rule for pedestrians to know is that drivers, motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders now must give way to them when they are crossing or waiting to cross a road into which or from which the traffic is turning.’
Who will be my guinea-pig?
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Re: Danger crossing Haslemere road from cinema
- GR (7th Sep 2022 21:20:40)
Technically, the new rule, is only half a new rule. It has always been the case that traffic must yield for a pedestrian crossing or about to cross, if said traffic is turning into a junction.
For example, as you approach say tower road, if you wish to turn into it (that is to say, cross the single dashed line) and there is a pedestrian crossing or about to cross, you must yield.
The update to the highway code now means that not only is this the case, but you must also yield if you are travelling to the exit of a junction.
For example, in this same example, you're about to cross the double dashed "give way" line. The idea being that the pedestrian has the right to cross in front, rather than behind, the vehicle.
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